As I have stated before, neither of the candidates have indicated that they will drop out before all of the nomination contests are over, so we should let the voters have their voices heard without Supers tipping the balance in the interim. And after that, if it's even necessary, the Supers can step in and close the deal.
Several good points are conveyed in a Boston Globe article posted at MSNBC's First Read today:
"Either way, a June superdelegate declaration wouldn't change the race's underlying reality, but simply accelerate a result that will be all but inevitable."
The June Solution makes sense. It's timely, easy and all but puts to rest that ridiculous idea of a "Super Convention" (we already have one, it's called the national convention).
Another good point in the article is one brought up by George McGovern. He points out that if you don't have a nomination wrapped-up by convention, then you also don't have a runningmate lined-up by convention.
Does a post-June battle mean that each of the candidates start vetting and choosing their running mate nominees just in case they get the nomination in Denver?
Right, because investing more people in an intra-party fight is a dandy way to heal a rift. Just one more good reason to give people confidence that we Supers will do our part to rubber-stamp the nomination in June.
Mr. Super,
Even Doug Schoen is conceding that Hillary isn't going to win the delegate count or the popular vote. Thus, by standing on the sidelines, the superdelegates are making the implicit statement that they are still open to the possibility of giving Hillary the nomination based on her perceived 'electability' in spite of Obama's lead in the various electoral metrics. And we all know what happens to our Party if that comes to pass...
Posted by: basil | April 16, 2008 at 07:14 PM
What a terrible debate. Charlie and George seemed to go out of their way to avoid addressing real issues. Their focus was on talking points, mostly republican ones. The only one I appreciated was the one forcing Hillary to say that she thinks Obama can win the General Election, "Yes, Yes, Yes". One can hope it forces her to stop making the opposite argument to you supers.
Posted by: Bilbo | April 16, 2008 at 07:21 PM
Agreed on Doug Scheon's comments, disagree that Supers need to take action now. Like I've mentioned, I'm convinced that these candidates are not going to remove themselves from the race prior to the June 3rd South Dakota primary. So why step in and tip the balance now? Let the voters speak, and then let's see if Supers are even necessary. For all we know this whole exercise could be an academic one.
Posted by: Mr Super | April 16, 2008 at 07:31 PM
What a disgrace of a debate, if you want to call it a debate...Clinton's answers seemed just a tad "rehearsed" and then went on to say that Obama was electable...I think she said yes yes yes...
This goes against her arguments to Supers that somehow he is not electable...was this debate just some trumped up show for the superdelegates?
This was the most biased debate yet...it was a Fox News Tabloid Debate...and insult to American Voters..
I think this will backfire on Hillary..
Posted by: Susan | April 16, 2008 at 08:01 PM
This was a debate that lacked substance, Although this is what Obama will be facing come August. I do think the Supes need to step in in June as the Olympics will run for two or three weeks in August taking time away from the Party being able to go through a healing process. They also need the time to define McCain. I am sure this is why they are talking early June as a wrap up date. With the polls turning and Clinton's negatives raising I feel this thing is over. The Media needs to move on nothing to see....
Posted by: Dave | April 16, 2008 at 09:43 PM
This was a debate that lacked substance, Although this is what Obama will be facing come August. I do think the Supes need to step in in June as the Olympics will run for two or three weeks in August taking time away from the Party being able to go through a healing process. They also need the time to define McCain. I am sure this is why they are talking early June as a wrap up date. With the polls turning and Clinton's negatives raising I feel this thing is over. The Media needs to move on nothing to see....
Posted by: Dave | April 16, 2008 at 09:44 PM
But what if the undeclared Supers all say in June that they are going the same direction? That would suggest that there was all sorts of negotation going on in the background and lead to charges of the "smoky back room". But if they don't all go in the same direction the winner's mandate will be more tenuous. It's not clear which is better.
Posted by: Brian Dell | April 17, 2008 at 04:56 AM
Nor is it better if we all endorse now.
There is no right answer to any of this, but I do believe that it is the right thing to let the people vote without Supers impeding prior to the last scheduled primary.
Posted by: Mr Super | April 17, 2008 at 06:54 AM
I agree that it would be problematic if all the supers endorsed now, but I also think there could also be some problems if all of the supers waited until June 3 to endorse.
I like the slow trickle of super endorsements that is happening now (I think 7 made official last week, 8 so far this week)--not enough to look like they are determining the outcome, but enough to get us closer to that ultimate outcome.
Posted by: Chris | April 17, 2008 at 09:08 PM
Obama's complaints about the media show he is finally coming down to earth. He doesn't want to be asked about Rev. Wright or why he doesn't wear a flag pin. These are not rocket science questions. He does a good job of ignorning answers and only implying them-ie: If Iran attacked Israel he would take "appropriate action" whatever that means. Hillary's anwers were substantive and direct. The superdelegates must realize that come November, Obama will have to answer questions he doesn't like and will not get away with anwers like I'll take "appropriate action." The simple truth is that Obama is not ready for prime time.
Posted by: Jay | April 19, 2008 at 10:14 AM